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After the Fact


After the Fact is a podcast from The Pew Charitable Trusts that brings you data and analysis on the issues that matter to you—from our environment and the sciences, to larger economic trends and public health. Experts from Pew and other special guests discuss the numbers and trends shaping some of society’s biggest challenges with host Dan LeDuc, then go behind the facts with nonpartisan analysis and stories.

Nov 26, 2025

In the heart of South America, the Chaco-Pantanal region holds the planet’s largest tropical wetland. It’s a place that’s teeming with colorful birds, capybaras, anteaters, and even jaguars. Unlike the Amazon, this region has largely resisted deforestation, so conservation here is about preservation, not restoration. Take a trip with us in this episode of “After the Fact,” in which Amelia Moura and Natalia Araujo, who work on Pew’s conserving the Pantanal and Gran Chaco of South America project, describe what it’s like to visit the Chaco-Pantanal; how Pew works alongside local communities to further conservation efforts; and why it’s important to safeguard this region for the future.